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Grown up review

by "Will Dockery" <will_dockery@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 23, 2006 at 10:56 AM

speedo wrote:
> Peter.H.M.Brooks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > DELONGPREBUM wrote:
> > > Peter.H.M.Brooks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You've made the mistake of trying place Bukowski's works
in the
> > > > > > > > > category of "literature".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Excellent! Well done, lad, you've managed to make a useful
and sensible
> > > > > > > > comment - it's taken you a few days to have this
contribution to your
> > > > > > > > bull**** ration, but you must be congratulated for it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If it isn't literature, then what do you think it is?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll leave the graduate school pigeon-holeing to you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, dear, and you were trying so hard to show a little
intelligence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are going to make a claim, fatuous or not, then, to
maintain
> > > > > > some shred of credibility (or, in your case, to build a shred)
you do
> > > > > > need to show some ability to defend it, even just a little
bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You've already shown that you find it im****tant to put, or not
put,
> > > > > > things into pigeon holes (taxonomy isn't, of course,
everything,
but
> > > > > > only a very ignorant or stupid person would imagine it had no
value) by
> > > > > > claiming that this chap Bukowski didn't produce literature. To
then say
> > > > > > you can't find a better category simply shows your own
emptiness
of
> > > > > > thought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You seem to find discussion difficult and talking to you
superiors
> > > > > > seems to upset you a very great deal. No doubt you've had a
dreadful
> > > > > > upbringing to leave you with such an obvious chip on your
shoulder - or
> > > > > > is it that somebody is still trying to bring you up?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you write your posts as if you're still in the student
lounge,
> > > > > waiting to defend a thesis?
> > > > >
> > > > > That won't work here.
> > > > >
> > > > This is becoming obvious. You clearly believe that you have some
sort
> > > > of presence and that your anti-intellectual boorishness is
charming
or,
> > > > perhaps, an attempt at a persona that you feel helps you overcome
your
> > > > feelings of inadequacy.
> > > >
> > > > You mention an assembly line, I'm fairly sure that most people
there
> > > > would have more decency and respect for aesthetic and intellectual
> > > > matters than you appear to have. In fact, by linking such people
to
> > > > yourself, as you project yourself, and to Bukowski, another
low-life,
> > > > you insult their dignity and decency - you probably insult
Bukowski
as
> > > > well. It's an effective insult, unlike any of your deliberate,
> > > > kindergarten attempts at insult.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't seen any evidence that Bukoski was quite as false to the
> > > > working class as you seem to think. He was undoubtably an
low-life,
but
> > > > I think that he had an element of honesty and some respect for
decency.
> > > > Naturally, though, you'd expect his fans to be drawn more from
genuine,
> > > > unthinking and anti-intellectual low-life.
> > > >
> > > > It has been interesting to look into this little cess-pit. I'm not
sure
> > > > that it has been as useful as one grown-up essay (after all,
grown-up
> > > > essays have been written about very light-weight, minor and
popular
> > > > figures in the past to general illumination), but it has been
> > > > surprisingly revealing.
>
> That was a very interesting argument, well done to both of you!

"Indeed"!

Seems to have ended in a stalemate, though.

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery videos:
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Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > > "stop typing stupid, stupid."
> > >  - Renay's advise
> > You mean /advice/, right Barbie?

Now available in condensed, /cat****-poetry free/ version:

> You little harlet you!
>                     ^^^^^^
>    SCAT> "Missing Testicals"
>                   ^^^^^^^^^
>    SCAT> You shouldn't have ate that day, Vonnie Leigh.
>                             ^^^
>    SCAT> you'd ate seven Soft-Shell Taco Supremes
>                ^^^
>    SCAT> I want to breath your air
>                    ^^^^^^

Ready for Hallmark Hammy's /slurp polish/.
Dennis M. Hammes wrote:
> "Barbara's Cat" shrieked:
>
> >>>Mommy
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Cm~
> >
> > ----
> > From:  Barbara's Cat - view profile
> > Date:  Mon, Sep 22 2003 7:43 am
> > Email:   Barbara's Cat <c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Groups:   alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.arts.poems
> > Not yet ratedRating:
> > show options
> >
> > In article <bklo1j$32mm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > "Bindi" (Bind...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote ...
> >
> >
> >>Barbara's Cat wrote:
> >>
> >>>My sister, born: Sep 22, 1953, died: Oct 19, 1959
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>>Children too free for the dangers out there,
> >>>you were a mother who took care of me,
> >>>and would feed us whatever you could find.
> >>>You shouldn't have ate that day, Vonnie Leigh.
> >
> >>eaten. Eaten what?
> >
> > The berries. I ate them too, but I survived because I swallowed them
whole
> > instead of chewing them (according to my father).
> >
> >>This is confusing.
> >>From the intro, Vonnie Leigh is 5/6 years old
> >>and now a mother?
> >>I know what you are getting at but it is not clear.
> >
> > My sister always acted like a mother to me and the other children.
> > Our real mother was not a good one and left us alone way too often.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > ----
> >
> > 'Nuff said.
>
> 'Samatter?

Sounds like Barbie needs a /hallmark poli****ng/, apparently, Hammy.



Barbara's Cat wrote:
>
> "stop typing stupid, stupid."
>  - Renay's advise

You mean /advice/, right Barbie?

Look it up: http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/advice.html

Heh... another for the collection.

Here's a short list of a few of the misspellings Barbie has put out,
sometimes in the subject lines of threads:

Harlot:

But Dad got mad and beat the lad.
 "You little harlet you!
Get out my door, you little whore,
  forget I ever knew you!"
-Barbara's Cat (Fri, Nov 26 2004 10:23 pm and several other reposts)

Testicles:

 "Missing Testicals" (Mar 25, 11:57 am by Barbara Cat)

Eaten:

Children too free for the dangers out there,
you were a mother who took care of me,
and would feed us whatever you could find.
You shouldn't have ate that day, Vonnie Leigh.
-Barbara's Cat (Sun, Sep 21 2003 6:29 pm)

Eaten:

when everything digests just as it should.
Instead, they call when it's bad. Like after
you'd ate seven Soft-Shell Taco Supremes
-Barbara's Cat**** (Fri, Jun 4 2004 12:31 am)

Breathe:

I want to warm my face
in your sapphire splendor.
I want to breath your air
until our mouths go dry.
I want to wash my hands
in your silver river.
-Barbara's Cat (Sun, Feb 1 2004 8:30 am

Urm... that's enough Barbie Cat**** for one morning, but ya'll get the
idea.

-- 
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery videos:
http://tinyurl.com/yfmzeq
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
Grown up review
"Will Dockery"   2006-10-23 10:56:19 
Re: Grown up review
"Baba-cat, the real   2006-10-23 16:17:31 
Re: Grown up review
"Will Dockery"   2006-10-23 09:48:59 

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