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Re: Today is the Birthday of Dylan Thomas (1914)

by "Will Dockery" <will.dockery@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 28, 2006 at 08:18 AM

Stuart Leichter wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > "Stuart Leichter" wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > Made money /and. was a sodden drunk, also... a bridge between
Rimbaud
> > > > and the Beats.
> > >
> > > Will, are you teaching now? In your own name? Why did you use to
write
> > > 'G-d' but now spell It all out?
> >
> > The Leonard Cohen movie is in town, probably taking an entourage
Sunday
> > night to take it in.
> >
> > > Reuben, Reuben (1982/83) was a superb romantic thriller starring
Gowan
> > > McGland as the Dylanish poetic monologist. It's funny how you used
> > > 'bridge' -- it's something Gowan can never have.
> >
> > Dis you think that Orson Welles' role in Lady From Shanghai was an
/film
> > noir/ homage to Dylan?
>
> Probably, since DT turned his toes up 6 years after TLFS came out.

Still looks like OW did a Hearst/Kane job on DT, with the wisdom to mix
things up more to avoid the problems he had with the earlier film.

> > Like he faked his death and went the Rimbaud/Morrison route:
> >
> > "When I start out to make a fool of myself, there's very little can
stop
> > me...  If I'd known where it would end, I'd 've never let anything
start. If
> > I had been in my right mind, that is. But once I'd seen her. Once I'd
seen
> > her, I was not in my right mind for quite some time...That's how I
found
> > her. And from that moment on, I did not use my head very much, except
to be
> > thinking of her. I start out in this story a little bit like a hero,
which I
> > most certainly am not... Personally, I don't like a girlfriend to have
a
> > husband. If she'll fool a husband, I figure she'll fool me. Big boob
that I
> > am. I thought I could escape her."
> >
> > and
> >
> > "I told myself I couldn't leave a helpless man
> > lying unconscious in a saloon. Well, it was me that was unconscious,
and he
> > was exactly as helpless as a sleeping rattles****."
> >
> > and
> >
> > "Do you know, once, off the hump of Brazil, I saw the ocean so
darkened with
> > blood it was black, and the sun fadin' away over the lip of the sky.
We put
> > in at Fortaleza. A few of us had lines out for a bit of idle fi****n'.
It was
> > me had the first strike. A shark it was, and then there was another,
and
> > another shark again, till all about the sea was made of sharks, and
more
> > sharks still, and no water at all. My shark had torn himself from the
hook,
> > and the scent, or maybe the stain it was, and him bleedin' his life
away,
> > drove the rest of 'em mad. Then the beasts took to eatin' each other.
In
> > their frenzy, they ate at themselves. You could feel the lust of
murder like
> > a wind stingin' your eyes, and you could smell the death, reekin' up
out of
> > the sea. I never saw anything worse, until this little picnic tonight.
And
> > you know, there wasn't one of them sharks in the whole crazy pack that
> > survived?"
> >
> > "There's a fair face to the land, surely, but ya can't hide the hunger
and
> > the guilt. It's a bright, guilty world."
> >
> > some American haiku (as defined by Kerouac):
> >
> > "I woke up...in the crazy house!"
> >
> > and ending with
> >
> > "I'd be innocent, officially. But that's a big word, innocent.
Stupid's more
> > like it. Well, everybody is somebody's fool. The only way to stay
outta
> > trouble is to grow old. So I guess I'll concentrate on that. Maybe
I'll live
> > so long that I'll forget her. Maybe I'll die tryin'."
> >
> > Or sort of a Blackboard Jungle/To Sir With Love threadbuster?
>
> That last piece of dialogue sounds like Billy from Carousel.

Got a quote?

> > Orson Welles was a great American poet, though, without a doubt.
>
> You seem to favor the most pretentious ones, Will.

Ginsberg, Corso, Rimbaud, guys like that.

Going to see Cohen tomorrow at the movie house.

--
WRBL television spot on the Sam Singer Loft show, from:
http://tinyurl.com/y48fgk

"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery videos: 
http://tinyurl.com/yfmzeq
 




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Re: Today is the Birthday of Dylan Thomas (1914)
"Will Dockery"   2006-10-28 08:18:37 
Re: Today is the Birthday of Dylan Thomas (1914)
Stuart Leichter <leich  2006-10-29 14:02:06 

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